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    Khadijah99
    Participant

    Hi. I haven’t exactly made a profile on any websites yet I’ve just been researching. I have noticed that brown sugar babies really don’t get any play. Can any brown sugars give advice or even stories about how they’ve met there SDs (please don’t say patience.) THANK YOU!

    #13416
    Brook
    Brook
    Keymaster

    Success in the Bowl has nothing to do with your skin color, or your height or weight or anything else about your physical appearance. It’s about adding value to someone’s life. My advice would be to understand what you have to offer and marketing that. Here are some blogs to help you along the way.
    https://www.letstalksugar.com/confessions/brown-sugar-baby-joins-the-sugar-bowl/
    https://www.letstalksugar.com/advice/success-for-ethnic-sugar-babies/
    https://www.letstalksugar.com/advice/use-your-skin-tone-to-your-advantage/

    #13550
    Zenya Rose
    Zenya Rose
    Participant

    Hi Khadijah,
    I’ve been in the bowl for a year now and I can attest that it can be a very frustrating place.
    You will come across profiles that say no African- Americans, Asians, Latinas, etc.
    It hurts, but it is life.
    Would you rather have messaged that profile and be left on read, then wonder why they did not respond?
    That is how I try to look at it. I’d rather be rejected upfront and know exactly why.

    Now here is how I deal with it.
    When searching through profiles put phrases like “African-American”, “Women of Color” in the profile text box.
    Then play around with your location.
    There may not be too many SDs who love Brown Sugar around you,
    however there may be some a state away willing to fly you out.
    That has helped marvelously with me.

    Sometimes you just have to take a break from the bowl as well.
    Nonstop rejection is not good for anyone’s self esteem and will chip away at your confidence.
    My first SD loved that I was a black woman, and had faux locs, and everything about me being a woman of color.
    As did my second, so I can attest that they are most certainly out there.

    Unfortunately, patience is a huge part of the bowl.
    It is a lot of work, and not the fairy tale people may think it is.
    Finding a SD takes time, sending tons of emails, and weeding out the salt.

    Hopefully this advice has helped you out!
    Fell free to check out my blogs as well!
    They are specifically geared towards the Brown Sugar experience.

    -Zenya Rose

    #13613
    Ambrose
    Ambrose
    Participant

    It might not be something WoC wish to hear, but the “WoC” issue is a bit of a red herring. There are 10-14 SBs for each SD. So just getting a SD can be very hard. I know SBs what have gone a year without finding a SD. It’s a lot of work to find a SR.

    Being a WoC doesn’t hurt you as much as you might think. It has been turned into an easy excuse. I am in a very ethnically diverse area. A lot of AA women don’t smile in their photos. (I would say a good 60% in my area) This lowers a SDs interest. SDs what a SB who is going to be fun. Not smiling gives off the impression that a POT is not fun/happy. I come to the Bowl for fun, so I will gladly take a smiling woman over a SB mean mugging the camera any day.

    A lot of AA women, in my area, oversell their body image (easy 80%+). Claiming to be “average” or “curvy” when they are clearly “full”. This lowers a SDs interest and hides them from those looking for that type of woman. Again, honesty will win you more in the Bowl than anything else. Embrace yourself and it will be much easier, and lead to you having a much better time.

    #13682
    Zenya Rose
    Zenya Rose
    Participant

    Hi Ambrose!

    I think her issue could certainly be a combination of issues.
    I agree that the ratio is not in any Sugar Baby’s favor and it takes a lot of time and patience to find the Sugar Relationship we all strive for.

    However recent studies such as the OKCupid study on race reveal that African- American women are the least responded to demographic.
    I, as someone who sees Sugar Daddy profiles on a regular basis can attest that there are many profiles that explicitly state “If you are x race, I am not interested”, “Do not email if you are x race”, etc.
    That is not an imaginary issue.

    I will agree with you that an honest and uplifting profile can make all of the difference.
    The photos chosen, and descriptors can make or break a profile,.
    It is certainly no small task finding the right combination.
    I cannot think of a place more subjective than the Sugar Bowl and sharing a genuine snapshot of yourself is something that everyone has to master in order to find success.

    Even still, you could have the best profile on the site but until your ideal match scrolls by, it will seem like it is not working.

    I think a lot of women have unrealistic images of what sugaring entails in their heads.
    When they join they Bowl, they realize that and it is easy to attribute their lack of success to something they know.
    Though race is A factor it is most definitely not the ONLY factor !

    #13837
    Ambrose
    Ambrose
    Participant

    @ZenyaRose

    Don’t make the common mistake of equating ethnicity and culture.

    Some AA women have a culture that turns men off. For example, did you know AA men are less likely to respond/initiate conversation with a AA women in the US than a white man? (Per capita) As I stated, just off personal experience AA women in my area do a lot of “no nos” for a dating website. And being a minority group, even in my much larger than nation average, trends stand out.

    But this isn’t just a men vs women issue. It’s also a women vs men issue. Before I started Sugaring (before I knew it was a thing honestly) I spent a few months looking for escorts. A common statement on the many websites was “no AA men under 35”. This was by every ethnic escort across the board. Those men didn’t become less “AA” as they get older. But from the escorts I talked to, I tend to be inquisitive to a fault at times, as AA men get older their culture changes. As it does for most people.

    As a SB I can understand how hateful it seems when a POT SD has a no “xxx” ethnicity on their profile. But you might be shocked to see how often that shows up on SB profiles as well.

    There are always going to be some bigots. Sadly that can’t be helped. But at the end of the day, most “racist” issues are less “race” and more culture.

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